I was just over @ Anandtech.com and I see they have an Article up called Anand goes West - November 2002 Industry Update!Tthe most interesting bit is the piece about Nvidia's GeForce 4 Ti 4800? They also cover Nvidia's nForce2 and compare it against VIA's KT400! It's well worth a read... For starters we have the GeForce 4 Ti 4800, but don't let the name excite you - the card is nothing more than a GeForce4 Ti 4600 with AGP 8X support. Even more disappointing is that there's talk of a GeForce4 Ti 4800-SE that runs at the same clock speed as the current-gen Ti 4400 but with AGP 8X support. We can't only fault NVIDIA for misleading nomenclature though, the difference between ATI's Radeon 9500 and Radeon 9500 Pro is huge yet the difference in name implies nothing more than clock speed changes. Anand goes West - November 2002 Industry Update