...but since I got my kids a gamecube for x-mas, who cares? :p I liked the original Red Faction, I just installed it and was playing around with it again on a PC I'm setting up for a friend and had forgotten how much I liked the destroyable environments. Yes, granted not everything was blow-up-able...but an awful lot was and it sure made it a lot more realistic/fun/satisfying for me. The plot was pretty horrible executed, ("Where are all the miners in this "miner's revolt"?!?"), but I really felt the engine/concept held a lot of promise and was looking forward to a follow up. It seems like it's been a long time, I look forward to seeing what they've done since then. :)