Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.4
Mastertech
#1 you only need one Firewall and 1 antivirus. What idiot installs two of each? Just because YOU are incapable of setting up a machine properly does not mean it cannot be done. I do this for a living and have THOUSANDS of clients. When I set up a machine the only spyware anyone gets is from installing stupid spyware infected applications like Kazaa ect... You need to: 1. Fully update Windows with ALL updates, for XP SP2 is essential. 2. You need to make sure the XP firewall is enabled 3. Install 1 AntiVirus program like Avast. 4. Install Windows Defender 5. Uninstall MSJVM and install Sun's latest version of Java.
Mastertech
Read this on how to prevent Spyware infection. 1. Fully update Windows with ALL updates, for XP SP2 is essential. 2. You need to make sure the XP firewall is enabled 3. Install 1 AntiVirus program like Avast. 4. Install Windows Defender 5. Uninstall MSJVM and install Sun's latest version of Java.
Mastertech
I have seen no proof of this and I want a link to confirm this.
TSThomas
"5. Uninstall MSJVM and install Sun's latest version of Java.
Mastertech
Yes you manipulating what I am talking about does not change what I actually said and meant.
Mastertech
Yes you keep making these claims, yet during this time I repeatedly asked for ONE link to prove this but you had nothing. You never have anything just FUD.
Mastertech
I just gave you the information to become more educated. What you do with it is up to you.
Mastertech
I realize learning is beyond you. That is not my problem. I do have thousands of clients which is why I am able to provide REAL solutions to problems. While I do have thousands of clients I do not have millions - which is the number of Internet users so obviously there will be many who do not have a system set up by my company and no I will not tell you who this is. Installing Opera and Firefox DOES not provide protection. I see this on a daily basis, systems massively infected with Malware and Viruses but they have Firefox and Opera installed. This is the reality. If you actually had a REAL job in the REAL world with REAL clients you would see the same thing. I have just given your the solution for free, what you do with the information is up to you. You have a choice to learn something or remain ignorant. The choice is yours. The number of clients I have grows every day because I provide realistic solutions that work and are proven. But apparently even givening them away for free online does not prevent the rampant ignorance spread by the Firefox Fanboys.
Mastertech
It is a Myth on a fully patched version of IE. That vulnerability is patched.
Mastertech
I am still waiting on a link that can infect my fully patched version of IE with auto-installing spyware. This isn't complicated. You have yet to deliver. My clients had no infections during this time period from that exploit before it was patched. That is the reality = Deal with it.
Mastertech
No Sun's Java is not "secure" either but the reality is it is more secure than MSJVM and does not allow code execution with the latest version. The reality is that Java is a requirement of many web pages. If you have a more secure version of Java please let me know. FYI the "insecure" verion of Java you mention is also the same version used by Firefox.
TSThomas
"FYI the "insecure" verion of Java you mention is also the same version you recommend for IE".
TSThomas
So if your "clients" or yourself weren't infected by an exploit/vulnerability that means *no* other Internet users could possibly have been infected?
Mastertech
Of course Firefox is more secure than IE. It has less total vulnerabilities. I've said this many times. However in terms of Spyware a fully patched version of IE is not affected by auto-installing Spyware. That has never changed. What has also never changed is the fact that Firefox is insecure and Opera is far more secure than Firefox. Something all the fanboys never point out. You want to bash IE for security vulnerabilities when Firefox now has exclipsed 161 vulnerabilities. Anyone who wants to use the most secure browser would be using Opera Period. The latest version of Sun's Java is not affected by Spyware Period. MSJVM is. It is not complicated. Java is a fact of life. Many sites require it and therefore it needs to be installed. If you do not uninstall MSJVM you will be vulnerable to auto-installing Spyware.
Mastertech
I did not know you two were...
Mastertech
No it means that no one was exploiting the vulnerability, which is also why Microsoft did not release a patch earlier, they saw no immediate threat. This is how it works in the real world, we base security decisions on real world threats.
Mastertech
I gave you the information on how to easily secure IE, you can ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist or you can use it. The choice is up to you. But it is obvious you do not work in IT and have business EVER working in the field. Your complete lack of knowledge on Real World Threats is astonding. I do this EVERYDAY. If Auto-installing Spyware was so rampant between patches then why are you only able to come up with 2 links of this? Neither of which can be proven because there are no working HTML links. Could it be no other security company saw any remote use of it and the two in question were looking for news and determined to find it? So Frank what is your real name and address?
TSThomas
Ohh, questioning ones sexuality, Masterlies must really be getting desperate to have to resort to such a response.
TSThomas
Tsk tsk, that would indeed constitute an unwarranted personal attack on both of us. W2S should ban this homophob for slandering others without proof of any kind.
