Flash deceptively bundles the Yahoo Toolbar
Rosco
Damn the Yahoo man
Mastertech
I see the point, Flash never tried to install any other software before. This is very deceptive for the new user and easy for them to click on next without looking. Considering the Flash Player was free for years with no hassle this is pretty sleazy of Macromedia.
Juomaru
First he says: It makes sense too why I am finding the Yahoo Toolbar installed on clients machines all over the place. "By default I always install the Google Toolbar" and real Spyware protection not the ineffective Yahoo Toolbar that includes some form of the false positive prone Pest Patrol. -->What he meant "by default"? So if they bundle Google toolbar and other real spyware then it is a-okay? Then he says: There are some arguments that there is a clear option to select to not install the Yahoo Toolbar but this is completely unacceptable. The two choices blend in to the page: 1. Get Flash Player 7 with Yahoo! Toolbar FREE (Default) 2. Get Flash Player only FREE -->I want to know what is acceptable to him if the company wants to change the software bundle in a way that would meet his Majesty's PERSONAL APPROVAL. Finally he says: Spyware? While the Yahoo Toolbar is in effect NOT Spyware and actually includes a simplistic form of AntiSpyware protection, it is still not wanted. In this respect people label unwanted bundled applications negatively. In this instance I cannot blame them. Macromedia needs to seriously rethink their strategy here. When I download Flash, all I want installed is Flash, period. -->How does the 2 choices in the download page STOP him from downloading flash player only. -->For the love of God, even when someone lets you download FREE software, they don't even have "the rights" to "suggest" or "recommend" other software products to you at the same time.
Mastertech
"What he meant "by default"? So if they bundle Google toolbar and other real spyware then it is a-okay?" -->I didn't read that at all. Macromedia should not be bundling anything with Flash and he was meerly giving some reasons why he doesn't use the Yahoo Toolbar. "I want to know what is acceptable to him if the company wants to change the software bundle in a way that would meet his Majesty's PERSONAL APPROVAL." -->How about change it back so you just download flash and nothing else? "How does the 2 choices in the download page STOP him from downloading flash player only." -->It is about the average user who will not know any better and for everyone else it is an annoyance. "For the love of God, even when someone lets you download FREE software, they don't even have "the rights" to "suggest" or "recommend" other software products to you at the same time." -->How about we don't use Flash then? The Yahoo Toolbar has nothing to do with Flash. It is annoying enough we have to go to their site to download the damn player let alone be bombarded with advertising crap.