Yeah IBM are a joke, they only all but created the thing called a PC that you're sitting in front of and funded the beginnings of Windows that you're running while typing that post in, while still being makers of some of the most powerful mainframe systems in the world, and designers of the PowerPC chips used by newer Apple systems. (older ones used mainly motorola powerpc chips.) I think this is a great move by AMD and will hopefully increase the competition on Intel, which will end up meaning faster cheaper CPU's for all of us. :)