Say NO to Firewalls and Virus Scans they all suck...


Just my Opinion... :beer:

I said the same till Blaster got through my router.

I said the same till Blaster got through my router.

löl instead of the firewall the MS Update would have been enough ... thats no reason
yes Virus scan is a good point, too ... realtime ... whatta BS I spend lotsa money to make the system run fast and stable or I spend the same money just to keep up firewall realtime scanner realtime malware scanner realtime trojan scanner realtime 0190 warner ?
its fully enough not to click any damn link you see ... not open any damn email ya got and just virus check files which do have suspicious origin that all ... the perfect protection

So do you have the MS update service running on full auto or do you have to remember to regularly visit the Windows update site?. Personally this is the crap I want to do without. I visit MSUpdate once or twice a week and choose what I want, i.e. I certainly don't want the out of date NVidia driver update it currently offers!
Do you trust M$ to release a patch on time for every breach?

and FYI this is a list of services I turn off after installing XP, (A-M = Auto to Manual), but of course it depends on what you use your computer for...

Automatic Updates - A-M
Computer Browser - A-M
DNS Client - A-M
Distributed Link Tracking Client - A-M
Error Reporting Service - A-M
Help and Support - A-M
Internet Connection Firewall - A-M
Messenger - A-D
Portable Media Serial Number - A-D
Remote Registry - A-D
Secondary Logon - A-M
Server - A-M
TCP/IP NETBIOS Helper - A-M
Upload Manager -A-D
Windows Time - A-D
Wireless Zero Configuration - A-M

Well the blaster worm was a joke of a worm anyway but NO I have Auto Updates off...

For those that had the worm, which I did get because I did a repair on my XP machine and went to activate and when even doing a repair and even though those updates are there the system needs to redownload all updates again after a repair and that was how I got the Blaster Worm... I don't consider this a virus...

Anyway by being in the field I simply knew how to stop SHUTDOWN from running with the /a switch and then it was just a matter of going online and finding what was causing the problem or simply use a system that didn't have Blaster and look for remedy that way...

But either way I knew all the steps it took to kill the critter anyway... Besides I know exactly what services are on my system at all times and anything new or out of ordinary I do extensive research on unless I know already that it's a trojan or something like the BLASTER worm...

First off if you see Blaster.exe running and you don't have like a Sound Blaster sound card then it should throw up RED FLAGS anyway...

But I will go to my grave with my opinions on Firewalls and Virus Scanners and any software in this FAMILY... IT'S ALL A JOKE... MONEY MAKERS...

If you are a gamer as I am all of these only take away from playing and cause nothing but troubleshooting hassles and less time playing and making many people ticked off about playing mulitplayer games - They always blame the games!!! Most things people get or have problems with is their own doing or by using those great things this post is about...

As Mertsch stated I spend big bucks getting my system running TOP NOTCH and COMPATIBLE with EVERYONE so that I can REAP the benifits of having a good system than to knock it back down with rediculous software running and taking up valiable resources that I'd rather use gaming...

yeah auto update is off and I visit MS update site ~1 time a week ... anyway any update is shown here or anywhere else ...
no I don't trust MS 100% but for now I havn't had any problem with all those security holes or what so ever ....
based on one thing ... be a carefull user ...
what do ppl. expect when installing "+600% IE speed" or surfing all those XXX for free sites ? ppl. do not have anything to give away they want to harm you and they will ALWAYS find a way and be 100% sure when there is one day that 95% use linux the will be thausands of dialers worms and whatsoever for linux .... hackers do always find their way ... firewall or not ... and if they just write their own virus which is not known for now and won't be detected ... they will find a way into ya system if they want ...
nobody can do anything against that .... but you can do something against malware you get by urselfe ... this means all ppl. outa there ... not especially you .... and it mean @ most those ppl. who use 0190 warner ...

Well I think this thread has gone out of the twilight zone...

Yes like you Cellar I had to manually remove blaster, fairly obvious, easy, :roll: I still didn't trust M$'s patch enough, and who knows what variants where just around the corner, however I never felt the need to brag about any skills or tell people how long i've been in the IT industry.

I use an old free version of Tiny personal FW which does everything I want, without bloat, and even after 24Hrs doesn't register any CPU usage!

My McAfee virus scanner is from work, cos like you I don't want to pay for crap, but it gives peace of mind, and it's real easy to right click and disable before starting a gaming session.

We agree to differ. May I suggest another thread for those that are interested.

;)

now do something against CPU usage its about time LMAO

I will...

dam, my mouse pointer has just changed into a copy of Half life 2 running in a small window, with a very small message...

it reads... HA HA The HL2 Virus ownz! your firewall!!!


So thats what it is...... :knife:

:beer:

Found it - See first item on page 2

http://www.warp2search.net/forums/viewtopi...er=asc&start=15

I point that out because it shows that for that many years NOTHING...

Also to point out what I do for living not Bragging just informing - so people don't think I'm some idiot just throwing things out there...

I mean what I say and it's simply from PAST EXPERIENCE...