Which card would you use?
This is a discussion about Which card would you use? in the Ati General Topics category; I have a FireGL X1 and I also have a Radeon 9600XT. Which one would you guys prefer? I did softmod the firegl so my system thinks it's a 9700pro. .
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I have a FireGL X1 and I also have a Radeon 9600XT.
Which one would you guys prefer?
I did softmod the firegl so my system thinks it's a 9700pro.
Which one would you guys prefer?
I did softmod the firegl so my system thinks it's a 9700pro.
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OP
The Radeon 9600XT is made by Asus and it did come with the free Half-Life2 (nice perk)
Well i think your fire gl card is mostly used for 3d apps like Maya and 3d studio max etc etc. Not sure what drivers u use?
And that Ati 9600xt is the gamers video card. use cat 4.4 :hail:
All depends on what you do most of. :beer:
And that Ati 9600xt is the gamers video card. use cat 4.4 :hail:
All depends on what you do most of. :beer:
well since the fire GL uses the 9700 core is simply faster and second its not slower then a normal 9700 card only faster in some cases
so what do you thing is better ?
there is no thing like "gamercard" and as far as I know you do use simply he same cat as anybody else
so what do you thing is better ?
there is no thing like "gamercard" and as far as I know you do use simply he same cat as anybody else
My advice is that you run some benchmarks on both of the card and compare the result. For batter decision making, try out with real life game, such as Halo and etc. Lastly check for the compability issue. If both are good then pick the faster one. Usually the 9700pro will be faster.
Good luck.
Good luck.
OP
Thanks guys, I'll post my benchmarks soon.
I'm running Cat 3.8 for the 9700 pro (Fire GL soft mod)
and I'll download 4.4 for the XT.
I'm running Cat 3.8 for the 9700 pro (Fire GL soft mod)
and I'll download 4.4 for the XT.
u may should do a little comparison betwenn normal and modded driver I can't see the reason to buy a fireGl then mod is back to 9700 and loose the features u spend money on
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I'm running Cat 3.8 for the 9700 pro (Fire GL soft mod)
and I'll download 4.4 for the XT....
Why aren't you running modified 4.4 Catalysts on the FireGL? Just like all earlier revisions, the FireGL mod still works.
It's nice to have the game bug updates that the Catalyst drivers provide, but the native FireGL drivers are faster. There really isn't any need to use a set of modified Catalysts in all honesty, the 7.96.21 FireGL drivers are rock solid and perform extremely well. The only drawback of the FireGL drivers to me is the lacklustre control panel compared to the option-fest of the Catalyst control panel.
If that's still not good enough, give the FireGL 7.98.5 beta drivers a whirl as well. Grab here.
OP
Ok, I did the tests and here's what I got from the two cards:
FireGL (moded to 9700 pro w/ Cat 4.4)
4578 3DMark03
29,619 AquaMark3
9600XT Cat 4.4 (no mods)
3591 3dMark03
I'm thinking my cpu needs to be upgraded and I still have yet to OC the firegl.
FireGL (moded to 9700 pro w/ Cat 4.4)
4578 3DMark03
29,619 AquaMark3
9600XT Cat 4.4 (no mods)
3591 3dMark03
I'm thinking my cpu needs to be upgraded and I still have yet to OC the firegl.
so this seems as the fire GL is using the 9700 core not the 9700 PRO ... maybe you just sell the card and change it to a real 9700 PRO / 9800 PRO
The FireGL X1-128 and X1-256 have a core speed of 325 MHz and memory running at 310 MHz (or 620 MHz DDR). They are 9700 PRO's.
I'd use the FireGL over the 9600XT anyday :)
I'd use the FireGL over the 9600XT anyday :)
may have the same speed but same # of pixelpipelines ? thats the much more important thingy step from 4 to 8 with 9800 SE to PRO mod 13000 to 18000 3dmark1k2 points
OP
The fire gl x1 128 does have 8 pixelpipelines. So should my scores be higher?
Here's my specs:
Athlon XP 2400+ (2.0Ghz) 266 FSB
Volcano 9 HS/Fan w/adjustible speed
Asus A7V8X-X Ver. 1009
1 GB Kingston pc2700
120GB WD 8MB cache
Fire GL X1 128 (softmodded to 9700 PRO CAT 4.4)
4x +/- DVD-RW
500 Watt PS
Here's my specs:
Athlon XP 2400+ (2.0Ghz) 266 FSB
Volcano 9 HS/Fan w/adjustible speed
Asus A7V8X-X Ver. 1009
1 GB Kingston pc2700
120GB WD 8MB cache
Fire GL X1 128 (softmodded to 9700 PRO CAT 4.4)
4x +/- DVD-RW
500 Watt PS
Quite correct rayminrow, the X1-128 does of course have an 8-pixel pipeline architecture.
FireGL's are the product pinnacles for their GPU class at time of release.
Be it a FireGL T2-128, a FireGL Z1-128, a FireGL X1-128/FireGL X1-256p or the newest baby, the FireGL X2-256t.
If you really feel you need more 0omph in games, then either upgrade your CPU which in turn will up your fsb to 333 as the 2400+ is the last of the 266 fsb CPU's, or go and buy a newer Graphics card.
But I can tell you that every single game plays fine with my X1-128. I also expect Doom III and Half Life 2 to perfrom well too.
Contrary to popular belief, there's still a lot of life left in 9700 based cards :)
FireGL's are the product pinnacles for their GPU class at time of release.
Be it a FireGL T2-128, a FireGL Z1-128, a FireGL X1-128/FireGL X1-256p or the newest baby, the FireGL X2-256t.
If you really feel you need more 0omph in games, then either upgrade your CPU which in turn will up your fsb to 333 as the 2400+ is the last of the 266 fsb CPU's, or go and buy a newer Graphics card.
But I can tell you that every single game plays fine with my X1-128. I also expect Doom III and Half Life 2 to perfrom well too.
Contrary to popular belief, there's still a lot of life left in 9700 based cards :)
OP
You know JJ, do agree with you on that. 9700 GPU are extremely underrated. Even after my benchmarks, I played Halo at highest settings and the 9600XT lagged as where the 9700 doesn't.
Wasn't Doom3 using the 9700pros to demo at E3?
I plan on upgrading my cpu to the Athlon 64, so we'll see how that goes.
I did get a free HL2 :roll:
Wasn't Doom3 using the 9700pros to demo at E3?
I plan on upgrading my cpu to the Athlon 64, so we'll see how that goes.
I did get a free HL2 :roll:
The 9700 Pro's are amazing, I wonder if I can keep it 2 years running. One left to go :P
