Water cooling
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This topic was started by Ulysses31,
Ive been thinking about getting into water cooling, using the asetek waterchill system:
http://www.waterchill.com/default.asp?show...ion=2&menuID=-1
with the extra vga and NB blocks. So my question is what do you think? Is it worth what (£200) its going to cost me or should I consider something else (afterall the coolermast heatpipe is a lot cheaper and very quiet too, but without overclocking power).
Im just undecided about wether its worth the extra money really, so any input would be appreciated
thanks
http://www.waterchill.com/default.asp?show...ion=2&menuID=-1
with the extra vga and NB blocks. So my question is what do you think? Is it worth what (£200) its going to cost me or should I consider something else (afterall the coolermast heatpipe is a lot cheaper and very quiet too, but without overclocking power).
Im just undecided about wether its worth the extra money really, so any input would be appreciated
thanks
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I'm interested in this too I was looking at the Wet & Chilly Chips water cooling kit thats at overclock.co.uk, plus theres also some cheap ones going on ebay new and sealed.
But I'm not sure if I wanna get into this right now I think i'd rather wait until the Athlon 64 comes out and see what the temps are like on that. I've heard that the asetek waterchill is good but I can't find a reseller in the UK.
Well I know I didn't really give you any advise but still I guess its nice to know that theres other people out there in the same kinda situation.
But I'm not sure if I wanna get into this right now I think i'd rather wait until the Athlon 64 comes out and see what the temps are like on that. I've heard that the asetek waterchill is good but I can't find a reseller in the UK.
Well I know I didn't really give you any advise but still I guess its nice to know that theres other people out there in the same kinda situation.
OK, I just helped a friend with installing his.
Right, the actual water cooling kit is quite good. But a few problems presented themselfs.
1.) The radiator is HUGE!!! (only for big cases guy's!) We had to take the Dremel and a hacksaw to his case, so that the radiator could have a chance at getting the air that it needs. In my oppinion, it would be far easyer to install the radiator in the side of the case.
2.) The link between the tank and the pump was a 10mm, badly cut, and too short piece of the same tubing that is supplied with the kit. This part is already built for you. The problem with this was that it pi**ed water EVERYWHERE!!! After I got the thing appart, I found that the hose was VERY badly cut, and was actually too short, so that the 2 hose locks where being pushed in together, which caused the thing to leak.
So that was just a simple matter of seperating the tank and pump, cutting a new peice of hose. It has never leaked since.
3.) The kit comes with 2 different sets of hoses, one is 12mm, and the other is 10mm. The feed BETWEEN the pump and the radiator (12mm) fits VERY loose on to the radiator, and we could not get the supplied hose clips to completly seal the connection, so that was another leak to deal with. It was solved by using a modelling heat gun, simular to a heat paint stripper, just much cooler!!!
What I did was cut a small 1.5cm peice of the 10mm tubing, heated it up, so that the 10mm tubing was nice and pliable, and basically shoved the peice of 10mm hose in to the 12mm hose. I then heated up the 10mm peice of hose that was coming out of the 12mm hose and with the help of some lubrication to the radiator connection, pushed it on, far enough so that the end of the radiator connector whent past the smaller 10mm hose, so it actually outputted the water in to the 12mm hose only, thus not causing any extra resistence to the flow.
It worked, and has never leaked to this day. The system is now 2 weeks old, and has been transported to a LAN party and back, and has been used almost constantly ever since.
The next problem that I see, is that of the way this system connects up to the computer and external AC supply.
Basically, you have a PCI bracket, which the mains lead that feeds the pump comes in to the PC with. I don't like the idea of raw AC inside my computer, esp with watercooling in it!!! The other part of the power supply goes to a huge AC block, which directly plugs in to your power supply's AC connector, then you plug your original AC lead up to the other end of the dongle. A problem if you like to have your PC close to a wall.
A small plastic dongle is installed between your case's power switch, and the motherboard headder for the PSU switch. This box just ensure's that the pump comes on with the PC. The dongle has a jumper on it, for controlling the amount of power that goes to the 120mm Sonon fan, that's bolted to the radiator. When set to 12v, this sounds like a plane taking off!!!
This kit has got to be THE LOUDEST watercooling kit EVER!!! WAY louder that most air cooled PC that I have ever heard!
When set to 7v, the fan is actually quite quiet, at the detrement to cooling.
With just the CPU water block connected, I got his AMD 3000+ running at 2.4Ghz, at 1.85v. The motherboard reported CPU temperature was about 40C idle, and about 46C load. Obviously adding a GPU and NB cooler would take this up in to the low 50's, depending on the heat output of your graphics card. This was all done with the fan at 12v (full speed).
All in all, this system is not bad, but the problems with it put me off it. Also the amount of work installing it was enough to put me off too!!! lol
This system pushed me away from going the DIY watercooling route, and made me get a Koolance EXOS external kit, which cost me about £230, with the kit, CPU waterblock, and a GPU cooler, extra hose, water additive, and some Artic Silver 3 too.
I got that up and running within an hour, and it looks the dog's chads sitting on top of my non-butcher'd Cooler Master Aluminum case, that set me back nearly £250, a year ago. NO WAY was I gonna cut that baby up to fit the radiator!!!
OH, and it performs better too BTW!
Hope this helps ;-)
Right, the actual water cooling kit is quite good. But a few problems presented themselfs.
1.) The radiator is HUGE!!! (only for big cases guy's!) We had to take the Dremel and a hacksaw to his case, so that the radiator could have a chance at getting the air that it needs. In my oppinion, it would be far easyer to install the radiator in the side of the case.
2.) The link between the tank and the pump was a 10mm, badly cut, and too short piece of the same tubing that is supplied with the kit. This part is already built for you. The problem with this was that it pi**ed water EVERYWHERE!!! After I got the thing appart, I found that the hose was VERY badly cut, and was actually too short, so that the 2 hose locks where being pushed in together, which caused the thing to leak.
So that was just a simple matter of seperating the tank and pump, cutting a new peice of hose. It has never leaked since.
3.) The kit comes with 2 different sets of hoses, one is 12mm, and the other is 10mm. The feed BETWEEN the pump and the radiator (12mm) fits VERY loose on to the radiator, and we could not get the supplied hose clips to completly seal the connection, so that was another leak to deal with. It was solved by using a modelling heat gun, simular to a heat paint stripper, just much cooler!!!
What I did was cut a small 1.5cm peice of the 10mm tubing, heated it up, so that the 10mm tubing was nice and pliable, and basically shoved the peice of 10mm hose in to the 12mm hose. I then heated up the 10mm peice of hose that was coming out of the 12mm hose and with the help of some lubrication to the radiator connection, pushed it on, far enough so that the end of the radiator connector whent past the smaller 10mm hose, so it actually outputted the water in to the 12mm hose only, thus not causing any extra resistence to the flow.
It worked, and has never leaked to this day. The system is now 2 weeks old, and has been transported to a LAN party and back, and has been used almost constantly ever since.
The next problem that I see, is that of the way this system connects up to the computer and external AC supply.
Basically, you have a PCI bracket, which the mains lead that feeds the pump comes in to the PC with. I don't like the idea of raw AC inside my computer, esp with watercooling in it!!! The other part of the power supply goes to a huge AC block, which directly plugs in to your power supply's AC connector, then you plug your original AC lead up to the other end of the dongle. A problem if you like to have your PC close to a wall.
A small plastic dongle is installed between your case's power switch, and the motherboard headder for the PSU switch. This box just ensure's that the pump comes on with the PC. The dongle has a jumper on it, for controlling the amount of power that goes to the 120mm Sonon fan, that's bolted to the radiator. When set to 12v, this sounds like a plane taking off!!!
This kit has got to be THE LOUDEST watercooling kit EVER!!! WAY louder that most air cooled PC that I have ever heard!
When set to 7v, the fan is actually quite quiet, at the detrement to cooling.
With just the CPU water block connected, I got his AMD 3000+ running at 2.4Ghz, at 1.85v. The motherboard reported CPU temperature was about 40C idle, and about 46C load. Obviously adding a GPU and NB cooler would take this up in to the low 50's, depending on the heat output of your graphics card. This was all done with the fan at 12v (full speed).
All in all, this system is not bad, but the problems with it put me off it. Also the amount of work installing it was enough to put me off too!!! lol
This system pushed me away from going the DIY watercooling route, and made me get a Koolance EXOS external kit, which cost me about £230, with the kit, CPU waterblock, and a GPU cooler, extra hose, water additive, and some Artic Silver 3 too.
I got that up and running within an hour, and it looks the dog's chads sitting on top of my non-butcher'd Cooler Master Aluminum case, that set me back nearly £250, a year ago. NO WAY was I gonna cut that baby up to fit the radiator!!!
OH, and it performs better too BTW!
Hope this helps ;-)
yeah sure...
I hope W2S does not mind the link???
http://www.extremecooling.co.uk/site/produ...roductId=601729
Just remember, this does NOT come with any Waterblocks. Make sure you only buy the proper Koolance blocks for it.
I got the Koolance CPU-200G Cooler Kit Gold (£40)
And the Koolance Motherboard/Video Card Cooler Kit (GPU Waterblock)(£20)
No need for the Water Additive, this syetm now comes with a pouch of pre-prepared Water. Oh, and no need for additional hose either.
I hope W2S does not mind the link???
http://www.extremecooling.co.uk/site/produ...roductId=601729
Just remember, this does NOT come with any Waterblocks. Make sure you only buy the proper Koolance blocks for it.
I got the Koolance CPU-200G Cooler Kit Gold (£40)
And the Koolance Motherboard/Video Card Cooler Kit (GPU Waterblock)(£20)
No need for the Water Additive, this syetm now comes with a pouch of pre-prepared Water. Oh, and no need for additional hose either.
Really don't see the attraction of a kit. DIY is what its all about right? I mean if you don't want DIY buy a dell dude!
Link to how to make a res:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1089/index03.asp
I made a res check out my sig. I got a scrapyard rad for £10 and added barbs myself. I never liked blue peter but this is cool! I don't make my own blocks though.
I now have 3/4" tubing outside my case, how can you do that with a kit? You can't.
Link to how to make a res:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1089/index03.asp
I made a res check out my sig. I got a scrapyard rad for £10 and added barbs myself. I never liked blue peter but this is cool! I don't make my own blocks though.
I now have 3/4" tubing outside my case, how can you do that with a kit? You can't.
