Well i'm not saying that i will wait for all of my life but is was a good move by me that i skipped GF3. I made a jump from GF2 ultra 32ddr to the asus v8460 deluxe 128 ddr. It is simple: u can't and must not buy everything new from nvidia. So, i will just wait till november and buy NV35 while some of u will drule in front of monitors watching the possibilities of NV35. Then i wil skip the next version and buy next after next and so on... It is a lot easier that way... And less expensive. For now my card is one of the top cards on the market (if we don't count Quadro XGL) and i won't even speak about ATI because i don't like it.

What you should really do is buy a card like the NV30, OR a 9700, because for a long time theirs not going to be a game to really touch those!
I mean seriously you cant just say
the 350 from radeon will kill the NV35 when its out even, look at the time frame, 6-10 months??? In that time do you think NV will over look the features of the R350 and just be like OK LETS BE FREAKIN MORONS AND BUILD A SLOWER CARD!
NOOOO They wont!

Either way, ATI and NVIDIA are good companies, I dont care if you like 1 or the other more, its the quality of the card that counts, and quite frankly ill use my frekin GF4TI4200 for as long as possible then just upgrade to the next best thing when a game comes out that challenges my card,

i am runnin on a geforce 2 mx 400 64mb now it is cozing lots of lagging in my gaming but with a few settings i can just get it to work well. but now my graphics sucks i was going to get a TI 4600 until i heard about the NV30 and now i m still waiting.. but i guess i will just have to suffer....but if my gaming still go well i until the end of next year then i will get the NV 35...........


and i m not even thinkin about ATI ...... their prices are tooooo high and even if they go on to higher peformance(now they are)their driver releases take ages...

so i am not going on one side... i m just saying that if ATI lower their prices and have rapid driver releases like nvidia then i will also love ATI..

but TOO BAD

all i know now is that the nv30 runs on directx9 256bit and it is 30% FASTER THAN ati radeon 9700

Yes, NV30 will be 30% faster than the 9700....that makes sense. What DOESN'T make sense is Nvidia releasing their answer to the 9700 six months after their only competition releases theirs. This frustrates me to no end. Technically Nvidia has lost half a product cycle and now ATI is in the lead. Personally I've only ever owned Nvidia products because of ATI's drivers compared to Nvidia's. Soon ATI will have unified driver architecture just like Nvidia does now and that will be almost certain doom for Nvidia.

In summary Nvidia is 6 months behind and apparently have no plans to catch up with ATI. Once ATI's drivers are squared away (soon) I think all rational people will make the switch to ATI.

well here is my opinion on the matter. I've noticed with every release of an Nvidia card the first initial release has some bugs and stability problems. After a few months they release a new version of the card with newer bios and small fixes. There was the Geforce 3 then a few months later came the ti200 and ti500 then the geforce 4 came out and now there is the 8x agp version which is nv28. I personally just bought a geforce 4 ti4200 a few months ago and am going to keep that for probally a year or so then look and see what is available and make my purchase decision from there but I am not going to buy a brand new nvidia card right when it comes out. I plan on waiting at least 4 months after the release to get mine when they have newer bios releases with the card and maybe a newer version of the card with a few fixes.

Before gf4 ti4200 128,which i bought 3 weeks ago,i was using 3d prophet 4500 with Kyro II chipset and 32mb sdram. The fact is in gaming i didn.t have any problems.I was playing RTCW at 1152x864 with no lagging that means if u have a good cpu ,gpu will work just fine.the only difference i saw with the gf4 is more fps and only in few games better quality of grafics.
In my opinion every 1-1.5 years we should make an upgrade and this is considerable

I coudn't agree more. I will just wait 3-4 months after card's release and buy it with new bios and bugs fixed in some advanced version. Also, the price will be more acceptable. But i will skip GF FX (NV30) and just wait for NV35.