RADEON 9800PRO DETECTED AS A 9800XT
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seeing as all the new technologies are being introduced i decided to use yesteryears performance parts to make a gaming rig with a £550 bugdet
i got
athlon 64 3200+
msi K8T Neo-FIS2R mobo
512 ddr 400 ram
msi rx9800pro
default 3dmark was 18100 which i think is in line for the hardware??
however windows says this is a radeon 9800pro plus with the 9800xt chipset. how is this possible???
i got
athlon 64 3200+
msi K8T Neo-FIS2R mobo
512 ddr 400 ram
msi rx9800pro
default 3dmark was 18100 which i think is in line for the hardware??
however windows says this is a radeon 9800pro plus with the 9800xt chipset. how is this possible???
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Got the latest Catalyst drivers?
OP
using the ones that came with the card
ok sumthing weird is now happening
the temp is 65c at idle :(
ok sumthing weird is now happening
the temp is 65c at idle :(
yes that is true ..
ATi stopped producing R350 cores ...
they only go for R360 cores ... the good ones to XT ...
the "bad" ones to pro ... so they have more use of the product instead of wasting chipsets ... just like any CPU maker does
ATi stopped producing R350 cores ...
they only go for R360 cores ... the good ones to XT ...
the "bad" ones to pro ... so they have more use of the product instead of wasting chipsets ... just like any CPU maker does
OP
please any ideas why the chip is running at this high?
what is the athlon 64 meant 2 run at??
what is the athlon 64 meant 2 run at??
well you have 9800XT core.
65c temp is not that bad.
Original 9800 XT with XT Fan can reach 95c
use ATITool and tell me how many Pipelines you got.
and what is your core/memory speeds
65c temp is not that bad.
Original 9800 XT with XT Fan can reach 95c
use ATITool and tell me how many Pipelines you got.
and what is your core/memory speeds
it's simple as mertsch said
you have a card with r360 core.
that's all
you have a card with r360 core.
that's all
65'C isnt bad for a 9800pro or xt. Try adding a couple of case fans to remove the hot air if you don't have some already.
OP
ok this is depressing...
i have left everything at the factory settings and done the 3d mark 2003 benchmark using the 9800 pro and my trusty old geforce fx 5900xt goldensample
the 5900xt wins: 6200 vs the 9800pros 5900
i cant return the 9800 pro so i have the option 2 sell that or the 5900xt
how is this possible i thought fxs are bad with dx9 :knife:
i have left everything at the factory settings and done the 3d mark 2003 benchmark using the 9800 pro and my trusty old geforce fx 5900xt goldensample
the 5900xt wins: 6200 vs the 9800pros 5900
i cant return the 9800 pro so i have the option 2 sell that or the 5900xt
how is this possible i thought fxs are bad with dx9 :knife:
you decide upon one benchmark ???
and that one on the most nothing-saying-benchmark ever released ?
you should really rethink this
and that one on the most nothing-saying-benchmark ever released ?
you should really rethink this
You should stop complaining and just enjoy both cards.
OP
i have 2 sell 1 of them2 do sata raid and im confused
Id run a few benchmarks before you make a hasty decision, everyone knows about Nvidia " optimisations "
Run things like Aquamark, Shadermark etc.. Run a few games check Frames etc.
But dont base a purchase / sale on 3dmark only
Peav
Run things like Aquamark, Shadermark etc.. Run a few games check Frames etc.
But dont base a purchase / sale on 3dmark only
Peav
OP
i used ati tool it is a r360 with 8 pipelines
1- how can i enable temperature monitoring
2- what would the performance increase be in the 9800xt vs pro
1- how can i enable temperature monitoring
2- what would the performance increase be in the 9800xt vs pro
you can try one of those various PRO to XT mod .... see homepage ... flashing BIOS to XT + using modded driver .... while I would not flash BIOS ... using a modded driver is absolutely risk free
then you should have the sensor available ... since PRO cards do not have it ... why should it be enabled in driver
on same clock rate both cards perform the same
the higher clock rate of XT makes ~5% of difference ... but this is different from game to game
then you should have the sensor available ... since PRO cards do not have it ... why should it be enabled in driver
on same clock rate both cards perform the same
the higher clock rate of XT makes ~5% of difference ... but this is different from game to game
OP
after looking at the depressing doom 3 benches it doesnt matter nemore :cry:
if i modded this to a fire gl wud it make ne difference as thats an opengl card??
if i modded this to a fire gl wud it make ne difference as thats an opengl card??
no
depressing ?
the alpha runs fine on 9800 PRO so do you really think you need a 6800 to play the game ???
don't panic doom³ will run fine without spending 1000$ for athlon 64 and 6800 for sure !
depressing ?
the alpha runs fine on 9800 PRO so do you really think you need a 6800 to play the game ???
don't panic doom³ will run fine without spending 1000$ for athlon 64 and 6800 for sure !
OP
that hardocp looked at the high settings with 4xaa/8af and the 9800xt only gets 26.9 fps
mine wud b worse as its only a 128mb pro
and i only have 512 ram all their tests are 2gb ram
mine wud b worse as its only a 128mb pro
and i only have 512 ram all their tests are 2gb ram
cause 4xAA and 8xAF is just plain stupid ...
the Doom engine is just great ... like most other game engines it does not need AA and the effekt of 8xAF is not much noticable ... even more if you compare to 2x which performs much faster ...
and this saves you much of VRAM letting a 128 MB card perform very well
and 2GB RAM ... pfff that will really change nothing looking at performance .. maybe loading times are slower .. but the game will run at same speed ...
again ... the alpha ... version 0.02 run VERY well on 9800 pro ... now the optimised final will work like charm
the alpha has some slow down which is caused due the totally uncompressed data and high disk access ... if everything is preloaded once ... it works without a glitch
the Doom engine is just great ... like most other game engines it does not need AA and the effekt of 8xAF is not much noticable ... even more if you compare to 2x which performs much faster ...
and this saves you much of VRAM letting a 128 MB card perform very well
and 2GB RAM ... pfff that will really change nothing looking at performance .. maybe loading times are slower .. but the game will run at same speed ...
again ... the alpha ... version 0.02 run VERY well on 9800 pro ... now the optimised final will work like charm
the alpha has some slow down which is caused due the totally uncompressed data and high disk access ... if everything is preloaded once ... it works without a glitch
OP
i always have 4x aa anf 8af tho; i dropped 2 2xaa/4af and played ut 2003; maybe its pscological but im sure it looks worse :knife:
is there a possibility that the radeon opengl driver is really bad and needs a rewrite :hail:
is there a possibility that the radeon opengl driver is really bad and needs a rewrite :hail:
OP
i have the oppurtunity to change the 9800pro to a 256mb 5900 ultra at no charge
is it worth it?
is it worth it?
