Card is seated properly. CPU temp (Watercooled) is 35 celcius.

With no driver installed at all, all looks normal. Had to uninstall the 3.8's. Installing the 3.7's and seeing if it's changed.

3.7s give the same problem. My card's RAM broken?

....
1st thing to try is to UNderclock your card will this fix your problem ???
aditionally you can run "Artifact Tester 5"

does this help ??

First of all please host the pics somewhere i can see the issues you are having. Easiest way would be to take the card back and take a new one home on warranty.

by serveral reinstalls.. do you mean the video drivers, or you reinstalled XP several times?

also what card where you upgrading from?

i found that when bouncing my ati/gf4 in and out of the same box, i'd need to do a fresh install of xp in most cases...

you can have a look at www.guru3d.com and grab their driver cleaner.
(or perhaps i'm thinking of rage3d.com's)

dunno just played 18 hours of Gothic 2, so i'm a bit burned...

if you return the card for an exchange and it still dont work.. try a fresh install of XP.

Return the card man.

Download Driver Cleaner version 2 from Driver Haven and unistall all ATi drivers. Also uninstall ALL GeForce drivers. Reboot and try the Catalyst drivers that came with the card. You should have gotten a CD of drivers from whoever made the card. Try THOSE first and then report back.

Format PC - Retry it.

If it still doesnt work take card back.

Format PC - Retry it.

If it still doesnt work take card back.

Remember dont try a new card without formatting HDD first

I think you need to up your medication, KillerBebab. Reformatting the boot drive just because you're switching graphics cards is not only unnecessary, it's insane. Worse case scenario you MIGHT have to go into the registry and remove any references to the old drivers (nv*.dll, nv*.sys, etc. in the case of a GeeFarce board) but that's certainly preferable to formatting the boot drive (and considerably less time consuming).

Do you think the graphics card drivers write something to the boot sector of a hard drive that prevents it from EVER functioning properly again? ... or what? We're talking about a finite number of files that can be uninstalled and deleted ... both from the boot drive AND from the registry. What's left that might interfere with the process of some other driver trying to install itself on a system? He's obviously able to boot into Windoze so what's wrong with his system that requires a reformat? I can't wait to read your explanation for this one!

A simple uninstall of the old drivers (assuming those drivers actually have an uninstall script) usually works just fine and if it doesn't, Version 2 of Driver Cleaner from Driver Haven works even better because it actually deletes the drivers (which prevents Windoze from trying to reinstall them should you happen to reboot with the same card still installed).

Another method that works exceptionally well with GeeFarce cards is to boot your system into Safe mode and uninstall the drivers from there. In fact, if you take a look on Guru3D's web site there's some very simple directions describing just how to accomplish the TOTAL removal of old driver sets for both ATi and GeeFarce cards.

Reformatting your boot drive is a WAY last resort that generally indicates the complete failure of the operating system to boot ... and even then it's preferable to do a repair or update (BOTH of which can be accomplished via the installation CD) rather than a complete format and reinstall. At least that way you can retail all your old settings (email, address book, links to all your applications, etc.) and NOT have to reinstall nearly every piece of software you've spent the last year or two installing, updating and tweaking just so it all runs the way you want it to.

Do the world (or at least this forum) a favor, KillerKebab, and stop giving BAD advice to people who are looking for help (not MORE problems).

Later.

Well on my own experience changing cards from a ti4200 to a 9700 pro was a bad idea without a format of the system drive. My 9700 pro installed, yes. the drivers didn't. I'll be damned if anything worked at more than 3 fps in my system. Don't go telling me the drivers were badly installed I followed all instructions in the manual, and also used any remover for the Nvidia ones. Still crashed. I format my windows drive, and magic!

My 9700 works perfectly. Hmmm.

I give the advice I can give on MY EXPERIENCE. At the end of the day, isn't this what this forum is about?

Well on my own experience changing cards from a ti4200 to a 9700 pro was a bad idea without a format of the system drive. My 9700 pro installed, yes. the drivers didn't. I'll be damned if anything worked at more than 3 fps in my system. Don't go telling me the drivers were badly installed I followed all instructions in the manual, and also used any remover for the Nvidia ones. Still crashed. I format my windows drive, and magic!

My 9700 works perfectly. Hmmm.

I give the advice I can give on MY EXPERIENCE. At the end of the day, isn't this what this forum is about?

You're right about this forum being used for giving advice based on past experience. What you're WRONG about though is a blanket assertion that reformatting the boot drive is required to get a set of ATi drivers working correctly on a new card when switching from a GeeFarce card. THAT is blatantly idiotic.

I did the same thing ... switched from a GeeFarce Ti-4600 to a 9700 Pro and had ZERO problems doing it. Then again, I've been working with computers for over 25 years so maybe I've learned a few things along the way that keeps me from having to completely blow my system away just to install a graphics card. Then again, compared to some of the mainframe computers I've worked on, this stuff really is child's play.

The POINT I was trying to make (which obviously has eluded your attention) was/is that reformatting your boot drive is NOT something to be undertaken lightly and that making the blanket statement that YOU made (i.e. "Remember dont try a new card without formatting HDD first") is REALLY bad advice to give anyone just because that's what worked for you. Dumb. REALLY dumb. That's just the kind of thing that some of the kids who frequent these forums (and actually believe what you might write) DON'T need to read.

Can you appreciate the fact that there MIGHT have been something else wrong with your system when you made the video card upgrade that only a reformat/reinstall would correct and that it had NOTHING whatsoever to do with your video problems?

Get a grip, dude, and THINK before you write.

Later.

Well I assumed that he might have tried everything and not formatted and usually a clean install of windows is a good idea after a hardware change.

And he might actually have that problem also, and may need to format his PC. I am sorry for not having 25 years of experience on mainframes and the big stuff as you have. I just said what worked for me full stop. If I had to format every time then I had to format every time end of story. I just say that.

I dont see why it shouldn't be undertaken lightly. Just make a partition on the drive in which you dump installation files and the like to get everything back to what you used to have it like. Its worked for me and will not stop working. There is nothing blatantly bad or serious about having a 5Gb partition on my hard drive to dump any software I use.

Saying there MIGHT have been something else wrong and that I can't appreciate isn't true - I can certainly appreciate it. Since I had a problem (as you put it) and he seems to have a problem I propose a solution to him that also just happens to have worked on my computer. End.

I do agree on one thing (and I will edit my post accordingly) I shouldn't have put the always format XP part and I'm sorry.

The format thing was only so that you can be totally sure there is nothing left on your system that concerns your old card - I do appreciate 3rd party apps also exist for that, but maybe he had already tried them. Nothing about boot sectors, since his WinXP obviously loads and so did mine when I changed cards.

However there was no need to go on about my medication nor telling me I was totally idiotic nor that I need to "get a grip" just because I made a mistake. Lots of people may make mistakes on this forum. Do you go around to every one of them to tell them to up their medication and to get a grip?

I have corrected my post and if I could I would just delete every single one of my posts in this forum to be sure no one will listen to me since I obviously don't qualify for this forum.

I think you need to up your medication, KillerBebab. Reformatting the boot drive just because you're switching graphics cards is not only unnecessary, it's insane. Worse case scenario you MIGHT have to go into the registry and remove any references to the old drivers (nv*.dll, nv*.sys, etc. in the case of a GeeFarce board) but that's certainly preferable to formatting the boot drive (and considerably less time consuming).

Do you think the graphics card drivers write something to the boot sector of a hard drive that prevents it from EVER functioning properly again? ... or what? We're talking about a finite number of files that can be uninstalled and deleted ... both from the boot drive AND from the registry. What's left that might interfere with the process of some other driver trying to install itself on a system? He's obviously able to boot into Windoze so what's wrong with his system that requires a reformat? I can't wait to read your explanation for this one!

A simple uninstall of the old drivers (assuming those drivers actually have an uninstall script) usually works just fine and if it doesn't, Version 2 of Driver Cleaner from Driver Haven works even better because it actually deletes the drivers (which prevents Windoze from trying to reinstall them should you happen to reboot with the same card still installed).

Another method that works exceptionally well with GeeFarce cards is to boot your system into Safe mode and uninstall the drivers from there. In fact, if you take a look on Guru3D's web site there's some very simple directions describing just how to accomplish the TOTAL removal of old driver sets for both ATi and GeeFarce cards.

Reformatting your boot drive is a WAY last resort that generally indicates the complete failure of the operating system to boot ... and even then it's preferable to do a repair or update (BOTH of which can be accomplished via the installation CD) rather than a complete format and reinstall. At least that way you can retail all your old settings (email, address book, links to all your applications, etc.) and NOT have to reinstall nearly every piece of software you've spent the last year or two installing, updating and tweaking just so it all runs the way you want it to.

Do the world (or at least this forum) a favor, KillerKebab, and stop giving BAD advice to people who are looking for help (not MORE problems).

Later.

I think some people need to be alittle more tactful in the way they may disagree with someone.... and leave the insults for the dog :hmm:

Traded for new card. No luck.
Going to reformat ASAP.

Good luck. Try to save all programs to avoid spending any more than 1 hour getting windows back up.

Allright. Got 'er fixed. For some reason, turning off AGP fastwrites made it all better. Any idea why? How much of a performance hit will I take?

Most importantly, what should I use to overclock it? :D

You could use rage 3d tweak. Its a great tweaker.

http://www.rage3d.com/r3dtweak/ :D

As far as fastwrites...its a waste of time. Not one ounce of difference with it on or off in my experience.

I don't really want a tweaker, just an overclocker.
Kinda like CoolBits for NVidia cards. I like that I don't have to have an extra program running. I don't care about any options other than the overclocking.

http://www.voodoofiles.com/home.asp?Item=9742

Radclocker.... under downloads. omega includes it in his drivers...but this is standalone.